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LDL needs to be pattern A, fluffy, billowy kind. Individuals with triglycerides smaller/lower than 70 do NOT have small, dense LDL.
Between 70-140 TG individuals need a test to differ fluffy pattern A from dense pattern B.
Statins do NOT work on LDL particle size.
Also HDL comes in different particle sizes, not all HDL is good. Some are risky, the particle size needs to be fluffy, not dense. An HDL reading of 80 with mostly small dense particle sizes is a disaster (in the process of being fixed)...
So calling HDL 'good' is misleading.
LDL fight bacterial, viral, fungal and parasitic infections. High LDL could mean you ate bacteria (food poisoning) and your body is fighting it off temporarily.
Low LDL is associated with frequent infections such as a flu. You don't want your fluffy LDL low. You want high fluffy LDL, which of course will give you a higher number.
LDL with oxidized particle = BAD.
high LDL with healthy particle = GOOD.
(The Cholesterol Myth)
Low cholesterol readings is associated with high risk of cancer and early death.
LDL binds and inactivates dangerous bacterial toxins and has beneficial influence on the immune system.
LDL reading (mostly fluffy) above 160mg/l gives you a high immunity to infections like the flu.
To determine true inflammation get a CRP test done.
HDL is the shuttle that comes back with either small, dense or fluffy, healthy LDL. HDL = LDL on its way back. When LDL is low and HDL is high, most likely someone has currently NO infection and HDL is high because the person had plague build up in the arteries and it's being broken down and recycled.
High HDL doesn't mean you are healthy, it just means you're breaking down plague. Which is good, but shouldn't be there in the first place, right?
And, remember, particle size is what matters, nothing else! Not the total number of anything.
Also if your digestion improved, that's because on PB the liver produces healthy amounts of cholesterol that's made into bile to digest fats!
Without bile we would not be able to digest and absorb fats and fat-soluble vitamins like A,D,E and K. It is important for bone health! Retinol, vitamin D3, transforming minerals into bio-available minerals, e.g. rock minerals getting chelated through bile.
High LDL builds new cells, repairs and delivers nutrients.
Also, in winter cholesterol goes up, in summer cholesterol goes down. Cholesterol readings are different every day, at different times, each minute!
Blood cholesterol goes up during dental treatment.
LDL is a shuttle of cholesterol to the 'wound'.
Accurate tests for detailed analysis of actual lipoproteins particle size:
Liquid Chromatography, Gel Electropheresis, density gradient Centrifugation or NMR= Nuclear Magnetic Resonance.
smaller HDL particles are less desirable and are actually risky
smaller HDL particles are less protective (if at all)
smaller LDL particles are big contributors to plague.
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Consider that at 251 and a KNOWN variance of up to 30 points from one day to the next you could very well be in the 200-240 range which has the lowest rate of overall mortality. That doesn't seem all that bad to me. Cholesterol is much like BP. You need to average multiple tests to get a valid number.
Oh, and one other thing.....the accuracy of these tests like NMR for particle size are quite suspect at this time. So much so that (think 30-50%) that they may be fairly worthless from what I understand. Check out Chris Kressler for more on this."Accurate tests for detailed analysis of actual lipoproteins particle size:
Liquid Chromatography, Gel Electropheresis, density gradient Centrifugation or NMR= Nuclear Magnetic Resonance."Last edited by Neckhammer; 03-28-2012 at 02:23 PM.
